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FTC!
Jun 30, 2014 18:01:52 GMT -5
Post by Selphie on Jun 30, 2014 18:01:52 GMT -5
Alrighty, everybody! After a long and adorable season, everything must come to an end!
For the first time since being voted out the jury is finally able to address the F2! I hope that its as exciting as this season has been!
Lightning, Vivi, please post your opening statements! Tonight your goal is to convince the people that you have voted out of the game to grant you to title of being the sole survivor and Epicquatches first victor!
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FTC!
Jun 30, 2014 18:02:30 GMT -5
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Post by Lightning on Jun 30, 2014 18:02:30 GMT -5
First of all I would like to thank Kimahri and Selphie for putting together this game and for asking me to be apart of it. I've had an incredible experience here and I owe it to them and to all of you for making this game one of the most fun orgs I've had the pleasure of playing in. I've tried to make my FTC speech as short and succinct as I could, addressing the main reasons why I believe I played the best game, a better game than my opponent, and why I feel as though I should win your votes here tonight. I came into this game wanting to play an aggressive, strategic, social game that didn't need to be hidden or concealed. I made early alliances, early connections which held throughout the whole of the game, and new connections all along the way which helped to get me here sitting before you. I knew I would be a threat entering into the merge, but I also knew that I had enough connections through my social game and enough ties to the other tribe that I could effectively play both sides while remaining loyal to the people I wanted to go to the end with, which I feel I have. Wakka, Vanille, Tifa all produced valuable targets that could for the early stages of the merge take eyes off of me and be placed onto them. I utilized this to full effect and played a heavy hand in each of their boots. Wakka claimed to have special powers, similar to the powers and items I held in my possession but kept secret so as not be targeted as he was. Whether he lied about these powers or not is still up for debate, but I believe him talking about them with the wrong people got him voted out and made him a huge target at the merge, where as I kept secret my vote doubler, and my two Hidden Immunity Idols, allowing me to get far enough into the game where I could use them effectively to not only progress myself, but my allies as well. Which was a key component to my game. I knew I needed to bring the people who trusted me the furthest so I could have the best chance at getting to where I am now and I believe I did that quite effectively despite various twists and turns in the middle of the game. I always made sure I was safe on various fronts. Vanille was an easier person to boot as she rubbed everyone the wrong way. As for Tifa, she was incredible in the challenges and someone I respected in that department above everyone else in the game. I also knew that with her out of the picture I would have a better chance at winning the immunities I eventually went on to win, which I would need to do to help secure my allies safety in the game. I knew with my two idols that I didn't need to win the immunity challenges, but I also knew that if I didn't then the people I needed out would, and then my allies would be in danger, so I did my best at every chance and became a massive threat to win most of the challenges as we progressed and took out the people who could have a chance at beating me in them. Balthier played a huge part in my game. From early on on Balamb I considered him one of my closest allies right alongside Tidus, who we both agreed we would go to the final 3 with before the swap happened and dynamics shifted. I loved Balthier when others didn't, and I worked with him at every step. And when he was kidnapped over to us pre-merge, he divulged almost everything about the dynamics of the nu-balamb tribe and that helped me plan ahead accordingly, specifically with my husband vivi, who will we get to later. Come the merge I knew through Balthier and Vanille that Tidus was too close to Terra and that she would became a problem later. She was also someone I suspected had the Galbadia. If she could crack into the Balamb forum, then she could do so at Galbadia as well. So I wanted her gone after the other three as I felt she would ruin my connection with Tidus, which did happen. She was the player I feared most in this game and who I saw winning if I was taken out. But Balthier was concerned about Tidus and Terra's connection as well and through our trust and close talks of always wanting each other in the end game, he came over and told me about the final 4 alliance on nu-balamb that excluded me, and that's when plans had to be set in motion to take out Seph and later Terra and Tidus. I had wanted Terra out here, but Balthier and Vivi wanted to play it safe and take out Seph who no one felt an idol would be played on. If only we had taken Terra out here so much of the worry mid game would have been gone and Balthier might not have went out in the horrible way he did. I loved you in this Balthier and I hope you can forgive me for not playing one of my idols on you. I knew that it logically made sense that they would vote out Cloud or Vivi and there was no chance they'd vote for you as you were the only one they could pm, and they didn't. You left without receiving a single vote and I hope you can forgive me for that. I didn't think they could both have idols. You know I didn't want you gone. I know a lot of people might be questioning why I took Vivi over Cloud in the end when Cloud himself thought he wouldn't get any votes at FTC, and that's a fair question with a complex answer. Vivi and I were the first two people to go to Exile Island together. But we didn't just go there once, we shared that experience twice and in that time we got married. Husband Vivi. Wifey Lightning. We had a honeymoon that we don't remember because of all the rum we consumed, but it had to have been something special because that connection became my strongest one in the game. Our secret, not-so-secret showmance was one of my favorite things about this experience. We shared our love in private messages and we shared it through songs and dance and football and strategy. He was my rock in this game and I did everything in my power to make sure we made it to this point together. I won every challenge I needed to and used up every power I had because he had my complete trust and I had his. I do realize that I would have had more votes going in against Cloud. But by taking Vivi I wanted to prove to myself and to people like Tidus, who I had an early final 2 with, that if he had stayed true to what we had initially planned that I wouldn't have been afraid to take him to the end with me and that I would have valued our alliance like I've done with Vivi, enough to not cut his throat after promising to take him since the early merge. I believed that if I could make it into the final 3 and position myself to where I had the deciding factor of who to take and who to cut that by getting into that position I would have had to have played the best game I could and believed that no matter who I went up against that I could still win this game. I hope you can respect that decision and also respect that even if I didn't win the final immunity challenge that I still had faith in my chances of getting either of my opponents to take me. But I didn't want to leave anything to chance, so I posted 5,333 times, nearly 1000 more than my opponents, to ensure I would make the final 2. Coming into the merge I had planned on working with Vivi and Tidus and Balthier and Cloud and Sephiroth, and going to the very end with these people, and having a final four of Vivi, Tidus, and Balthier. But as the game progressed I became more and more aware of Tidus' affections for Terra and my inability to get him back with me. They were too close and something had to be done. Then something wonderful happened... Vivi told me about his items. It happened slowly and over a few days, but he revealed to me that he had an item from Tifa that could nullify someone's vote. He also on another occasion told me he got an item that acted as immunity for a friend which I later played on him. Every time he revealed an item to me, I revealed one of mine to him and he kept it a secret and that trust was doubled. Now at this time I had two idols and a vote doubler and the person I trusted most in this game and who was showing that trust to me by revealing this now had two items as well. There was absolutely nothing in the game that I saw that could stop us from making it to the final 3 together. At final 6 my two idols would be up. So I planned on trying my best to win immunity and if not use his other immunity to save him if he was ever in trouble. If we made it to the final 6, which we did, then we would make it to the final 3 in my game plan. I would play both of my idols on myself and on him. We would be into the final 5. Then even if I hadn't cultivated the strong relationships I ended up cultivating with Cloud and Balthier, if one of them did want to turn on us, we had a vote doubler and a nullifier (not knowing there were items that canceled these) and so we thought we were assured passage through the final 5 as well. So then we'd be in the final 4 and I trusted vivi to tie it here as I would have for him, so we would be into the final 3 barring the challenge and I believed in myself and in him that one of us would win and take the other. And that's what happened, besides a few hiccups in the middle where I ended up winning almost every immunity after Tifa left except one. This allowed me to us my idols on my allies and not ever have to use them on myself when they expired in that final 6 round. In closing, I hope you can respect the dominant game I played. I was a social, strategic, and physical threat. But I used my social connections, my strategy, and my ability to win challenges (5 Wins to Vivi's 0) to take me to where I needed to go. I played hard. I found idols. I got items. I made new allies and I worked with old ones. I loved this game and I loved the experience. I hope you can find it in you to vote for me to win. I believe I mastered all three aspects of the game. I may not have been the absolute best at a single category, but I feel as though I was the most well rounded and was good enough in each to where I was able to play the game I played, dominate and weave my way to the end, with people saying how much of a threat I was as early as the final 10. Thank you for your time and I look forward to answering any of your questions.
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FTC!
Jun 30, 2014 18:07:59 GMT -5
Post by Selphie on Jun 30, 2014 18:07:59 GMT -5
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Post by Vivi on Jun 30, 2014 18:08:10 GMT -5
Hey All For some of you it has been a long time coming to speak again - am sure you have looked to this moment with breathless anticip.... ...ation! Before anything else, Vivi like to take the opportunity to thank everyone involved in making this the game it was. Thanks to Selphie & Kimahri Ronso, who made every challenge work, thought out all tha twists, made the game run as smooth as possible, all the while keeping us all on our toes. Also, thanks to all of the cast, from Cecil & the pre-Jury righ' thru to Cloud who departed last night, and Lightning sitting beside Vivi here, and the lurkers beyond. It has been a pleasure getting to meet and enjoy the time with so many of' you and Vivi hope that, with at least a few of you, Vivi is able to maintain on the outs this game, once all over, irrespective of outcome this night. I'm grateful to you all. And now for something completely different... It would be very pleasing if everyone would have open mind as give consideration to who deserves to win. Each vote is very important, as is the person that casts each. Ireespective of Vivi gaining 1 vote or 7, Vivi is humbled and grateful. I came into game with the sole intention of amusing self and those around. There was an eye on the end game, even if that didn't always appear to be the case, just as much as embracing and enjoying each and every moment. Including Exile Island, and those that spent time with me there, I hope can attest to this. The fact that the 3 other people that all went to EI with Vivi all made it to the Final 5 (and very nearly the F4) and moreso, that Lightning and Vivi went there twice and set in stone such a strong bond so early evren though were on seperate tribes and we are still here together should speak for itself. By contrast others that went there didn't even make Jury should say something about the quality of the connections that were first fostered there. That was Vivi mindset at the start of game, and by and large this was principle that Vivi tried to bring every time logged on. Not knowing anything of FF or relationship of characters, or inded that of even Vivi, beyond what reading about Vivi on wiki after finding out who play as, literally day or so before game start. So just brought Vivi to life as best could - although according to someone who does know Vivi, apparently skip rope is Vivi game... but skip rope is just not same clas as hopscotch... and just as clumsy, if not moreso. This game is as much about positioning and having a good idea of what's happening, every bit as much as it is about playing. It's not always about making big moves, but rather the right moves at the right time. These have got Vivi here, in this seat so Vivi have chance to put case to you. Before going further tribute Vivi must pay tribute to my fellow finalist, Lightning. Lightning has played game in fine fashion and won many immunity along the way. Vivi cannot compete on that score - and simply rarely even tried to, because this is not what Vivi's game was. But we played this game together as a partnership. Indeed, even tonight there was a reason that Lightning would take Vivi. Referring to the comment that Lightning made when voting out Cloud. To paraphrase, despite her belief would win the game 7-0 against Cloud, Vivi was the one that was taken to this point, despite concerns that Vivi may not be as easy to defeat. This then is in your hands, dear Jury. But Vivi can't say did it all alone, because Vivi didn't. First off, Vivi worked his ass off - if Vivi had an ass - talking with every person in the game that crossed my path, trying to invest time in with each of you. Secondly and equally importantly, this is above all else a social game, which tests to adapt to any social situation - including being ostracized by circumstance - something Vivi was able to successfully complete. Vivi started the game being late in arriving - indeed first challenge had long completed before Vivi was able to log on. So from coming from this Vivi tried to make up for this by having a strong board presence as well as prove some use at the first, and ultimately futile count challenge... which reminds Vivi... a certain host still deserves being kicked in shins by all that had to do that. But more than that - Vivi made a home for self on EI. EI was in play for 5 rounds - and Vivi spent 4 of them at EI. This did a number of very important things: - Avoid the crazy as people get on each others nerves early on so being out of line of fire worked at this.
- Make strong bonds that would stand the test of time over course of entire game with Lightning and Cloud
- Make people feel as though Vivi would owe them rather than them owe Vivi
This last point is very important and undervalued. Sometimes people resent the feeling as though they owe something - anything to others in these games. It can cause resentment. So if Vivi can avoid people resenting on this basis this is good thing. It makes people want to keep Vivi - if nothing more than as being an option to them. And that works just fine, because people would talk to Vivi, open up and talk game. The more Vivi appealed to the sense of dpendance, the more others would open up. The thing is, when you don't have multiple person alliances the need to be a viable option, a viable alternative and strong independant bonds is essential, as opposed to being an easy vote, which so many trips to EI may have otherwise made me. I cannae lie and say that I was in control for all of the game, for that just isn't true. Nor would I want it to be. Rather Vivi was always in a position to know what was happening and plan accordingly. In tha early days, working on the count challenge especially (which as you all know is far from my strong point, ) to ensure getting through to the reshuffle intact. All along I was always on the look out for bonds that were real, and I felt that, even at that early point, would be key to playing such a strong social game. When people all say where votes are going it also meant that Vivi could on occasion vote in the minority intentionally. This made Vivi generally speaking sometimes appear to be coming vrom position of weakness, without ever being at the bottom, and would not only set up what was immediately happening, it also meant that Vivi could refer to such instances in the past in truth when talking to new people, to lessen any thought others might have that Vivi could be a threat to get to this point. Yet the proof is here. It worked. Vivi is here. This was as true of my various EI companions individually as it was of people on Gallbladder. In fact, until F7 Vivi played the entire game almost exclusively based on personal 1 on 1 connections and not multiple person alliances. And even at F7 it was an alliance of 3 within a group of 7 - which simply defies all Survivor theory. But Vivi made it work because of social game more than anything else. Sharing tall tales and true, limericks and more in PM's, and also a high on board presence, film festivivials, festivivial of the boot chatty, everything and anything. And it worked. In fact, the only vote Vivi recieved in the entire game was a rebound one at the infamous F6 TC, when Vivi vote for Tidus rebounded back, but Vivi immune, thanks to Lightning. This was all part of an over reaching strategy, to ensure the target was always kept directly off of me, and on rare moments played up minimal about of danger may be in. For example, after Rikku was voted out - the only time during course of entire game when Vivi was surprised by outcome of a vote (well, apart from Balthie's exit, but who could predict that?!?), comfortable in the knowledge that should we return to TC having others say they were willing to take out Kefka in order to preserve Vivi. Appear to be weak, never at the bottom. At the merge thi same strategy was employed through the opening rounds, where lthe loss of Wakka and the long weekend where Vivi hoped to talk and get sense of where everyone - and do mean everyone stood. Unfortunately, perhaps because I had voted for Vanile at the merge TC, my messages went unanswered and this was a disappointment. But al the while Vivi's little glowing eyes were taking all in. Had sensed that Terra's distance and grown closer to Tidus. That the... baa-baa-ba-balamb...group were all tied in with Tidus and that even Cloud and Lightning were so entrenched with Tidus also. Tidus was the very much the lynchpin of the game very clearly, with all those with tinge of pink wanting him to be part of their long terms plans, and perhaps it was this that made Vivi's move to oust him initially unsuccessful, it was the catalyst for what would follow. Doubts had to be raised and although they did not immediately work, the seeds were sown and took root, for althoug Tidus himself would survive 4 more rounds, what had been such an intractable situation was made pliable. Had my social game and this approach to information gathering not been usccessful, being able to maintain connections and work the margins,, as well a gaining the trust and ultimately making Vivi an attractive prospect for Balthie to want to flip and shake the game up by siding with, not only in blindsiding Seph, but I suspect in remaining true and sticking with us the following round despite the PM blackout - an arrangement that Vivi believes would have been solid through the rounds that followed. Vivi's partnership with Lightning cannot be underated wither. We trusted each other implicitly, sharing ideas and pooling our resources, to our mutual benefit. Although Lightning was winning challenges, there were always a Plan B that we had to ensure that the next few TC's would go our way - or so we thought. Noone - and I dare the hosts to say differently - no one could have forseen that nutso F6 TC. Even Alan the turtle was shaking his head at that when regaled of the tale. NOT Alan the turtle So why should you vote for Vivi? Because Vivi worked his socks off - assuming Vivi has socks under the shoes, even if he doesn't have feet - for it and don't think anyone could say Vivi was UTR... except strategically as was acknowledged by a few of you as the game progressed... But for the most part certainly not in terms of board presence and personality. Acting daft or desperate was a show... Either to ensure others viewed Vivi wasn't a threat, but to ensure that the connections I needed were in place for the times when I needed them, and not look like a threat, by making it always seem that I were relying on others, so they felt that my destiny was in their hands. If people feel like they have power over anything in this game - be it a situation or a connection - then that is something that they want and are not likely wanting to throw away. For me, it kept me safe and kept the target away as well as gave me the insight and information that was needed for Vivi to survive in a game where there was no multiple people alliance, just one on one connections. Ironic, for now, that is precisely what it is. I repeatedly came from a position of being out of the numbers to being in a place where my position was never seriously challenged - as previously mentioned, never having a vote cast against me in the entire game, and didn't have to rely on loads of immunities to do it, but purely on gameplay, social interactions and a sound personal strategy. You all know by now that Vivi is not great at challenges, but part of my strategy was to align myself with people that were - namely Tifa and Lightning. Because if Vivi can't have immunity, want it to be held by people that Vivi could be confident would have his back, and this was the case. Of course, my partnership with Lightning was much, much more than just that, but that is beside the point here. As seen in the early challenges where I can help I do work hard for my tribe at challenges, but some are just not my thing. I've made moves, mostly subtle ones, in this game, and even though Vivi doesn't have hands, have had to get them a little dirty, but it was all to benefit both Lightning and I, to get where I am now and as such, it is not necessarily a bad thing. I’m sorry if any feelings were hurt. However the connects and friendships that were created were not just merely staged. I hope to continue to foster these after this has concluded & that my hand is always open in friendship. It is a game and games are about having fun. And for better or worse, I had a blast. And hope a few of you did also. But… first and foremost, I always viewed this as a game and in the end there can only be one. I hope that over the course of your questions that I can explain what or why something happened as i did or what not. If it is in my power, they will be answered, and every answer will be genuine and honest. I am an open book and will own what is mine to own. But largely Vivi was not looking for confrontation, rather to enjoy the game , foirst and foremost. When the instinct kicked in to see opportunities and the playing field for what it was, I made efforts and took steps to change these. Most were subtle, and playing a subtle game was the key to Vivi in contrast to the personality presented. In this game I played a certain way and did what needed to be done. Whatever else I've loved every second and hope Vivi has brought some fun to you all also. For my part the relationships were real, it were only tha game that divides us. Vivi had an absolute ball playing this game with you all. I hope the Vivi that you all encountered was able to bring that and hope that you can see a bit of what Vivi's game, that although often hidden, weas always there. And now, it is in your hands, that the fate of Lightning and I is to be decided. My game lacked the challenge punch of Lightning's, but on a strategical level genuinely believe that the two games are comparable and that Vivi has played a social game that is deserving of your consideration. This is a social game at the root of it all. And it is this why I look to each of you now to recognize the truth of this and the truth of the social game which you have seen played here. Anyhow, I look forward to your questions.
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Post by Vivi on Jun 30, 2014 18:09:59 GMT -5
Sorry for delay. Was so excited... Vivi needed refreshment break before starting!
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Post by Selphie on Jun 30, 2014 18:13:56 GMT -5
Alrighty, very nice, finalists! I will now open the floor to Tidus, you you better treat im with all the love and care that a man as sexy as him deserves!
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Post by Tidus on Jun 30, 2014 18:15:33 GMT -5
The star player is here! "This is MY story. It will go the way I want it - or I'll end it here!" Hey you two! Thank gawd this is finally here, as I was getting sick with boredom in Ponderosa. These bitches have been as quiet as ever and all I've been able to do to entertain myself is give Tifa shit for being delusional and have filthy hot make-up sex with Balthier... But this isn't meant to be about me, so let's cut to the damn chase! Tidus: So, what's our goal? Wakka: I don't care how we do, as long as we play our best. If we give it our all, I can walk away happy. Tidus: No, no, no, no, no! If I say, "What's our goal?" you say, "Victory!" When you play in a blitzball tournament, you play to win!
First of all, a massive congratulations to the both of you for making it to the end of this wild game! I tried so hard to be sitting where you two are and came up just short so I can't help but be a little envious. No matter what anybody else says though, you have both earned your spots there and should be proud of yourselves for the games you've played. I'll try and keep this short but you both know as well as anyone how much I love to ramble! Lightning, girl, I am so pissed at you right now! I identified you as my biggest threat on day 1 and spent the whole game trying to make sure I had the one-up on you. In the end I think I tried too hard and made things worse for myself. I should have been confident in myself and stuck with you and made a move when the time was right... Instead I let myself be intimidated and made a move too soon only to have it backfire and put you in an even better position. Now that's what I call ironic! You remained calm, stable and strong throughout the entire course of the game and it paid off for you. How did you do it!? You must have balls of steel or something hiding under that skirt because as I was gradually losing my mind, your resolve never wavered and I admire that so much. In saying that, I don't want to make this easy for you so don't expect me to just hand you my vote tonight - you gotta earn it baby! Let's be real, you owned this game and everybody in it and I think we all know that... But I want to hear specifics! Please give me one trait for each member of the jury that you possess and they don't (or vice versa) which allowed you to outplay them in this game. Here is an example: Vanille: Batshit Tifa: Delusional Sephiroth: Lovestruck Balthier: Stupid, ugly, rude, repulsive, arrogant... Need I go on? Terra: Too perfect for her own good <3 Tidus: Sex God Cloud: Loyal to a fault Simple enough, right? Make sure it stings a little - I want everybody to know just how much better than us you really are! Oh and you can't use the same ones that I did, even though I'm sure you would agree that Vanille is indeed batshit fucking insane. ETA: Another quick question for you Light - you said in your opening you wanted to prove you would have stuck with our F2 had I not turned on you... Yet you also said you had planned to go to the end with Vivi for as long as you remember and it's pretty clear you two were very close for most of the game. What exactly was your plan to juggle both of these relationships had we gone down to the F5/F4/F3 together? Just a brief explanation is fine. Vivi, little dude, I gotta say I totally under-estimated you in this game! I thought you would be a push-over and somebody who could be taken care of easily whenever I wanted, but you proved me wrong multiple times. You weren't as bold or as controlling as Lightning was, but you were always working your tail off behind the scenes and I can respect that style of gameplay too. One thing that kind of irks me though is your decision to stick so close to such an obvious powerhouse in Lightning. It makes me wonder if you really were trying to win this game or if you were just playing for her to win...? There is nothing wrong with that - as we are all entitled to play however we want, for whatever reason we want - but if that is the case, just say so now so that I can vote for Lightning to win and not waste any more time. If you really are playing to win, then please answer me this; how is playing a low-key and less aggressive game like yours better than playing a "dominant" game like mine or Light's? And how specifically was your relationship with Light MORE beneficial to YOU than it was to her? That's all guys! Thank you both for playing and being such great competition. It's been a long and, at times, painful journey so I'm looking forward to it finally being over and finding out who everybody is! I hope you both enjoyed yourselves as much as I did in this game because at the end of the day we're all here to have fun, right? Right! Seeya! "Everybody, just one last thing... The people and the friends that we have lost.... And the dreams that have faded... Never forget them."
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Jun 30, 2014 18:27:42 GMT -5
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Post by Lightning on Jun 30, 2014 18:27:42 GMT -5
Thank you for your question! I hope this answers it properly.
Vanille: Not a survivor. She acted very negative and cold to a lot of people the days before she left and she was so obvious about her lies. Tifa: Less social. I believe the flaw in Tifa's game was that she didn't have the ability or the access to the other tribe like I had and couldn't make strong enough connections to lessen the target that being a challenge beast ultimately puts on you. Sephiroth: Unseen . I always thought he would be someone we could vote out later on. I never expected him to align with you guys. If he had remained more unseen and not done that I wouldn't have targeted him. Balthier: Crass and willing to call people out for their shit in public. It rubbed some people the wrong way and they couldn't get off on it like we could. Terra: I think she could have won the game had I not been here. I guess her main flaw was her inability to do well at the challenges she needed to when the time came. Tidus: Paranoia and Confidence. You didn't believe you could beat me. You didn't need to believe that. You just needed to believe you could beat me at a challenge at the end and cut me. I believed I could beat everyone and saw no problem going with whoever. Cloud: Lackadaisical. He seemed resigned to being voted out and didn't have that fire to win. If he got voted out he wouldn't have been as gutted as I would have been.
As for my plan to juggle you guys at the endgame? I really did play round by round for a lot of the game. It's what kept me sane but I also did look far ahead a lot. At one point when I still thought there was a chance you were with me and would cut Terra, I thought we'd go to the four with Vivi. Then I'd use my doubler and his nullifier and take out whoever we thought we couldn't trust. If I believed you still wanted me in the final three than the two of you would have been in the final 3 with me because I didn't think you two had a strong enough connection to betray me and I knew Vivi would take me and If I thought you might I would have went with you. It wasn't until Vivi started revealing his items to me and more and more people were saying you and Terra were too close that I decided me and Vivi had enough power that we could go all the way to F4 together, tie it, and not have to worry about a third. Then Balthier and Cloud came and were loyal to us and we worked with them and the items really became secondary at that point. I do think once you betrayed me and wouldn't have voted out Terra that I had to cut you no matter what. I couldn't see a way to gain that trust back from you and I knew I had a better chance at the final challenge against the other two.
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FTC!
Jun 30, 2014 18:32:23 GMT -5
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Post by Vivi on Jun 30, 2014 18:32:23 GMT -5
Yes, Tidus, you are completely spot on, and your under estimating me is precisely what I was aiming for. Have a big board presence with the various festivivials etc but not be picked up as much on the surface as beng the threat, while fostering and building every connection I could so that they would be in place for when needing them to be there, as well as getting the information I could and needed to use. There was more that was going on obviously, but thing is, Vivi didn't need more than what I got to work with and used it to help Lightning and I get to the end of the game. However, no I was not playing for Lightning. Of course I wanted to succeed in the game, as much as it was about having fun for me and enoying what I was doing - this had been the prime motivator when the game commenced, more and more Lightning and I clicked, and never felt as if she were playing me false. Playig Survivor when you do not have a multi person aliance means that you have to work pretty much everyone as much and with as much effort and determination as you can, and this was the situatiuon I found myself in, but was able to manage it. The trust that Lightning and I shared was absolute, no question and yes she was playing a more aggressive game, but there were 2 things I would say here. Sometiumes if you have someone bold like that working with you, they tend to draw the heat more than the style of game I was playing. Also, I do firmly believe that Vivi was going to get taken to the FTC by both Cloud and Lightning. Obviously Lightning did, but Clud's only slim chance would probably have been against Vivi. So it is not unrealistic to say that Vivi could have done what I had most of the game and not bothered with the Final Immunity Chasllenge, much like I had most of the game. So if I wasn't - and to say the least, the ciurcumstances of my 24hr count were far from ideal, would not have posted nearly 4500 times. And to camoflague a threat, sometimes it helps to be sdurrounded by other threats. In the end, only 1 person can win and in the end if you get to the end, you only need to beat 1 person. That is how it was more beneficial in theory. But it would ensure I was in best possible position to at least get to the end and you can't win if you can;t get to the end in the first place, yes? Everyone knows Vivi's strength is not in immunity challenges, but as noted in my opening remarks, part of my strategy is to be aligned with strong immunity competitor. This was the case with both Tifa as well as Lightning. Because if Vivi can't have immunity, I want those close to me to have immuinity. This then opens the rest of the playing field and makes it available to target as required while trusting that the persin who has immunity has my back. Anyhow, thannks for the game Tidus! You played a pretty damn impressive game. Kudos!
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FTC!
Jun 30, 2014 18:33:35 GMT -5
Post by Selphie on Jun 30, 2014 18:33:35 GMT -5
Tidus, are you satisfied? Have anything you wanna say in response? Feel free to!
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Post by Tidus on Jun 30, 2014 18:35:08 GMT -5
Nah, I'm good. Thanks for your answers & best of luck to you both!
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FTC!
Jun 30, 2014 18:36:12 GMT -5
Post by Selphie on Jun 30, 2014 18:36:12 GMT -5
Alrighty, next we have the ever so modest and surprisingly sexy Terra!
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Vivi
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Jun 30, 2014 18:37:36 GMT -5
Post by Vivi on Jun 30, 2014 18:37:36 GMT -5
Welcome back here to the MCG, that's drinks on Day 1 of the opening test.
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FTC!
Jun 30, 2014 18:39:41 GMT -5
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Post by Selphie on Jun 30, 2014 18:39:41 GMT -5
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Post by Terra on Jun 30, 2014 18:39:53 GMT -5
Hi guys! First of all I just have to congratulate you both for making it this far and for getting married! Too cute! I don't have a huge question or much to write since I wanted to keep it nice and simple for everybody. I have two questions for each of you and it doesn't matter which one of you goes first. 1- What do you think was your best move in this game? 2- Can you name the biggest mistake you made in this game? If you don't think you ever made a mistake then just say so. There you go two simple questions!
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